A Light Casual Discussion Regarding 'Divinity'
[friend sends an image of someone saying the end of the world is today, august 27 2026]
[Me]
WTF goin on LOL 😂
AUGUSY 12TH 2036 THE HEAT DEATH OF YHE UNIVERSE.
[Friend]
religion psychosis is the best ads we can get on youtube
[Me]
😂😂😂
Lovely
Omg speaking of
Peep this
I saw recently
[Originally, I said “Fuck Paul” here but don’t want this site to promote further division and hate even I myself highly believe certain language or ideas to be violence or dangerous - rather, I’d rather call out why they’re violent and dangerous, than just saying “Fuck you!” bc that doesn’t really accomplish anything other than perhaps feeling good temporarily in the moment - I am imperfect and capable of not acting out of virtue/maturity every time and deep understanding for another as this person who is still in her 20s, though, you still wanna try your best to always be empathetic with anyone and everyone I would say]
Jesus and OG message is goated, Paul is [basically another] Joseph smith
[Friend]
lowk honestly see it as jesus sacrificed his life so that we could live ours the way we want it to be
and not the bible depict what we should be and should act towards
[Me]
Gotcha gotcha
The way I see it is Jesus was basically an MLK of his time and ppl made stuff up around his death to make it more divine and stuff dozens of years after he died and attached it to Yahweh (a storm god from an old religion) and mixed with Jewish Old Testament prophecy stuff that they made stuff up to fulfill it - but the message he originally spoke I fw a lot, so I fuck with Jesus but not the stuff around him and ppl in power using it to control ppl by changing how it’s taught and written over time
Jesus would hang out with and befriend the homeless, challenge the authority of the state and hierarchy and greed, and say to love everyone as u love urself, and he never proclaimed he was god nor that heaven was a place but rather something you open within (a state of unconditional love you give to yourself and all - Heaven is all around we just make it hell for ourself by being stuck in fear or hate and ignorance etc)
Jesus was based af
[Friend]
in all my years of catholic school everyone has always said ” the way i see god is Yadda yadda”, “the lord sacrificed our lives for this yadda yadda”
its always upset me how im suppsoed to be taught this
[Me]
Facts
[Friend]
but nobody has the RIGHT answer
[Me]
Really, [if you ask me,] literally everything is “divine” (really, just profound and absurd and crazy to exist at all instead of never existing aka beautiful) imo, I think beauty is an intrinsic property of existence itself (because difference / weirdness = beauty and to be anything is to fundamentally be different than being nothing), and “God” is just one of many metaphors we use to describe what we and everything fundamentally is - ineffable, ever flowing, change aware of itself, and change in any and every way - life is change, change is life, that’s why I like to think of everything as “alive” if it can change is changing or inevitably will change, and biological life merely a subset of life - everything is beautiful and this is the before current and afterlife already, we just hurt ourselves in the wake of our ignorance and confusion and thus fear and hate born from that lack of awareness which is overcome by wisdom and critical thought, overtime building all the more ability to empathize with others and oneself, and coming to embrace and accept it all for what it is, aka, Love 😌
Life is not hierarchical; hierarchy is just something we project onto a harmonious intertwined codependent system
Things aren’t “better” than another or “best”; simply, different
Everything is equal, infinite, and yet still unique :3c
That’s how I see it anyways
Aka everything is “God,” in each and every way at every scale in every combination Not because of an invisible entity attached to it, but because it IS it exactly - “we are the cosmos coming to understand itself,” as Carl Sagan once said
Everything is formless but the shape of its constant flow presents the illusion of concrete form, when really, everything is constantly flowing and changing, fluid 😌
Everything is no different than a river, really - even empty space itself is constantly fluctuating at the quantum level
Wow that took a while to send
[Friend]
i fw this a lot
so like do yu think like that the universe has an intentional direction its folowing toward or is it like a random change just cus it does for the sake of iT?
[Me]
It just is 😌
And it can be in any and every way
If change is the only constant, even the manner of how change changes itself is bound to change
It’s formless - it’s not even permanently with or without intention or purpose, that’s why I say, it just is
And that’s the craziest most beautiful thing about it
Because it is formless and bound to change in any and every way seemingly perpetually - it is the ultimate form of freedom, and everything that exists has it because it IS it
And since life = change aware of itself, if change is the only constant, that would seem to indicate eternal life already 😌 and reincarnation is likely the case - karma and all that stuff isn’t like an external force, more so, the choices you make now is what you shall become in the next, if you act kind you are kind, if you act cruel you put cruelty in the world and the world becomes more cruel but u hurt urself by doing so bc everyone else is just a diff version of u as you are to them so - yeah
There is only ever the now
And even that is relative to each and every thing as we can see with general relativity
My theory as to how it works tho with choice, is that each and every thing is being itself, and is likely not fully free will nor fully without free fill - it’s prob both free will and no free will combined, or neither, something beyond simply the idea of choice - though, I personally and currently think (is always able to change tho given diff evidence), that panpsychism is the case (and what my big passion project is named after), aka consciousness is an intrinsic property of existence, aka everything has a base unit of consciousness even if perhaps null building on null - this means energy and “spirit” are one in the same, and the spiritual and the scientific are intertwined, one in the same - and if panpsychism is the case too, would indicate everything down to the smallest scale perhaps also “chooses” in the same way we do as the collective recursive formation of the smaller units of choosing conscious bits - ofc I don’t know this for certain but it’s my current best theory I’ve come up with
^ (indicates “free will” but again is formless and likely isn’t clear cut form of one or the other and is likely a mix of both what we’d call free will and lack of free will)
